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That was 3 Hours Well Spent

So last night was the much anticipated dialogue session with Mr Ong Peng Tsin.

Perhaps the most important thing that i took away was that one has to have clarity in purpose. He stressed this several times over the course of the evening. Having a mere purpose in your life is not enough. You’ve got to have clarity in it. That’s what’s going to carry you through the tough times, and guide you through the barrage of choices that you have to make. And once you’ve found your purpose, all else is secondary. Very similar to what Steve Jobs mentioned in the Stanford Commencement speech.

For Mr Ong, he told us that his purpose was to make a difference. For him, it was enough. It was wide enough to enable him to do many different things. He also said that if he was on his deathbed, he would have no major regrets. Perhaps small gripes would be stuff like ‘i should have visited Mt Everest’, but nothing major in the direction that he has taken in his life.

Prof Ben brought up a good point about what Mr Ong was doing. He could have bought a house in a place nicer than Singapore and spent the rest of his life fishing. But no, he was back here in Singapore, putting his efforts into the causes that he believed in. That was his purpose. To make a difference.

Laurence then asked him about his definition of success. A short but piercingly insightful answer ensued: “Everyone has his own definition of success. Mine is different from yours. How’s that for an answer?” I think his point was this: there are many ways to succeed, and success means different things to different people.

Another brief point mentioned is that people who are world class in what they do seldom have a balanced life. They are entirely focused on achieving that kind of peak performance that all else falls aside. He mentioned a few examples, including the best golfer in the world. That was real funny, but I think the point was not lost on us.

Then, there were many more technical questions regarding entrepreneurship and running a business. Typical questions like the funding process and mentorship. Regarding mentorship, Mr Ong said that the best model was the investor-investee model. When the mentor had a stake in the mentee’s business, this would yield the best results, because the mentor would be to an extent, responsible for that venture’s success. He disagreed with ACE’s (action community for entrepreneurship) model of mentorship, whereby a random mentor was to be paired up with a random startup. At the end of the day, the mentor will complain that this programme is taking up too much time, and that the start-up will complain that there was not much value to this programme. The sad fact is that there just aren’t enough of quality mentors in Singapore.

Another thing Mr Ong seemed to believe in: go to work for an early stage startup after you graduate. If i understood him correctly, he seemed to encourage this over starting your own business straight out of college.

I had a few questions for Mr Ong as well, like “after you sold each company, what did you tell yourself you would do differently the next time?” He said it had to do with people, and that he would try to pick even better and smarter people. Perhaps this should be a lesson to us on the importance of having the right people on board, and perhaps in the right seats too. He then went on to explain about what ‘smart people’ meant.

I then asked him about about his typical hiring process. For him, prospectives are filtered out based on GPA alone, as there is simply no time to interview like, what, 150 applicants? After that, they would be tested their technical knowledge by at least a few managers. However, the final decision rests on whether the managers feel that if they could work well with that interviewee. If the answer was no, they would still reject that guy even if he had his first class honours.

Mr Ong mentioned about company culture a few times. I was particularly interested in this topic as I had spent the holidays reading up on companies that had great company culture, and how they achieved it. However, he did not give much insight regarding this.

Basically, I think the point is this. We have all heard enough about what it takes to succeed, and to live a meaningful life. How many of us will actually execute on it?

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  1. January 15, 2010 at 8:49 am

    I was particularly interested in this topic as I had spent the holidays reading up on companies that had great company culture, and how they achieved it. However, he did not give much insight regarding this.

    I am particularly keen to understand more about this too – but I really cannot find time to read those books. We should talk over coffee after the semester is over and you can teach me. πŸ™‚

  2. Reuben
    January 15, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    Prof, teach is the wrong word, share is more accurate πŸ™‚

  3. January 16, 2010 at 1:44 am

    Basically, I think the point is this. We have all heard enough about what it takes to succeed, and to live a meaningful life. How many of us will actually execute on it?

    I absolutely agree with you here. If anything, I think this is the most important line in your post πŸ˜› I believe a lot of these ideas & concepts have been mentioned to us at one point of our lives, even before CS3216.

    Thanks for sharing this with us who missed the session.

    Prof is always very keen to talk about the topic of culture (learning or working). πŸ™‚

    • Reuben
      January 16, 2010 at 5:27 pm

      @Jon Lew

      The more we hear successful people speak to us, and the more we read books on such matters, we’ll realise that these principles are basically the same. If more than anything else, it’s validation that these principles do in fact work. It’s time to put them to practice.

      I think culture is supremely important. In fact, in many great companies, company culture comes ahead of customers as a core value. I think company culture is such an interesting subject.

      reuben

  4. Toms
    January 16, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Hey Ruben,

    That’s a nice summary of the talk. (= What I am more keen about is to hear your take on the points like balance. Listening to him certainly raised a few question in me, in which I sought to answer to have a clear picture of myself.

    I believe that he encourages people who have entrepreneurial aspirations to work with a start up where “people pay for your mistakes” over starting up over working for a company.

    • Reuben
      January 16, 2010 at 5:39 pm

      @Tomithy

      Balance as in balanced life? I think it depends on the perspective of the individual. For example if we are looking at a high-achiever’s point of view, spending 18hrs a day perfecting his craft might be living a balanced life to him. However, in the eyes of society it probably isn’t. That’s probably the reason why the majority of society never truly get great at something, just drifting around in life, seeking ‘balance’.

      About the point on where to head to after college, i think it depends too. Different people, different ways mah. I personally think that if you have an idea you really believe in, do some due diligence on it, then set out straightaway to work on it already. I think for Mr Ong’s case is that speaking from his experience, working for other early stage startups first gave him a good idea of what to do and what not to do. Along the way, he learnt that he could perhaps do enterprise software much better than others, hence struck out on his own. DISCLAIMER: this is what i think, not what factually happened!

      What say you?

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